Tarzan as a character belongs to Edgar Rice Burroughs, or being that he's passed away, his estate. Also who the heck enforce the copyright of Edgar, isn't he dead or something? They would only need it if there was a new scene or something. Is it because maybe he had some relative or somethone to enfocre the copy right?-Cococrash11, There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. It's likely that they included in the original Tarzan deal language about rereleasing because of the nature of the Disney Vault (e.g. Now say hello to the Nocts, Press J to jump to the feed. ), There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. I know that it isn't canon, but I would like to know. Even if he were active, he's most likely only aware of the KHUX stuff and would have no idea what's up in the other departments, especially for something that happened 10 years ago and probably nobody cares anymore. 1.5 I don't know if they needed to 'work anything out' since it doesn't have any new material involving Tarzan. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is no Unversed. I rather liked the occasional sparring with Sabor. The first appearance of Tarzan in an authorised publication was in 1912. The subreddit for Kingdom Hearts news, discussion, and more. In fact people have edited it a couple times without deleting it. They must have worked something out for 1.5, but I have no idea what. I hated deep jungle I didn't want 2 see it come back! That's why he's not included in any further games. Too Bad As Stories From Tarzan 2 Tarzan And Jane And The Legend Of Tarzan i Could See Us Returning To Deep Jungle Clayton Might Be Gone But There's Still More Baddies Like Tublat!!! I've literally became grey haired waiting for Sora to What exactly is the significance of the KH1 Final Mix Box Zack never got his date with best girl :(. John Carter), and are strongly contesting uses they see as unauthorised (e.g. It's arguably the worst world in that game, and it's better to give that property a try whilst Square still had the rights as oppose to never touching it. Just a dweller of Darkness. As I stated in my other comment, it's likely that the wording for the agreement for Tarzan's use in KH1 included rereleases. If someone uses them without permission, or uses them in a way that detracts from the Tarzan brand (examples include smoking, hurting animals not in self-defence, using rude hand signals), ERB can enforce their trademark and seek damages/injunctions, etc., and have been known to do so. ERB Inc. control the trademark for Tarzan, Jane, and certain other elements of the Tarzan universe. in Tarzan 2 Zugor Would Be The Party Member Since Young Tarzan is Very Cowardly!!! the Dynamite comics). Whoops. Did people forget that there were hippos there? That may be wishful thinking, thought. The licence issue, as I understand it, stems from the removal of any reference to Deep Jungle in recaps of KH1 in COM. DONT PRESS SEE MORE ON CAPTION #CapCut #darkjosie #darkjosieedit #edit #edits #josiesaltzman #legacies #CapCut ##mg #legaciesedit #mglegaciesedit #vampirediaries #originals #salvatoreschool #fyp HOPE: When we're young, we're taught the distinctionbetween a hero and a villain,good and evil,a savior and a lost cause. no they just had to keep it at 13 floors, if they had enough room for REbirth they had plenty for Deep Jungle. TroisNyxtienne, Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business {{{time}}}. Since companies aren't in the habit of sharing sensitive legal information, what we can piece together from what we have to go on goes roughly like: Tarzan is out of copyright. It was one of my favorite worlds from KH1. The prevailing opinion, thus, is that (as per Wikipedia, the KH Wikia) of these two scenarios is therefore that SE do not have permission to use the Tarzan trademark for later games. This means that SE still need to have permission from people other than Disney to use properties which Disney have licenced or acquired. tl;dr: trademark law is a pain, Disney no longer has . Anyway, perhaps Deep Jungle will make an appearance in a future game if the soon-to-be-released games have impressive sale rates. In fact I have Kingdom Hearts so if I saw that earlier, I would have deleted it. SE had nothing to do with those though, and neither of them are games. The only two Tarzan books still in copyright will enter the public domain in 2031/2032, so most of the Tarzan universe is public domain. Yeah I'm sure a social media rep would know all about licensing and development of a 15 year old Japanese game. and remastering KH1 fell under the same provisions. ERB Inc. have permission to use these, according to their website. Disney released Tarzan 2 in 2005 and made a Broadway musical in 2006 that ran for a year. That's why he's not included in any further games. A general confusion amongst non-lawyer people where trademark and copyright are conflated may also have contributed. I still say Atlantica is the worst world in KH1. Will this world ever make a return? Where do we place this bit of info, then, if not under Temporary Residents? KH1's development and release fell within the timeline of this license, so they could include Deep Jungle, but CoM and any other games came about after it expired. Archimedes And Tantor To Appear in Upcoming Visits To Deep Jungle!!! Well it didn't make it to Chain of Memories because of the Copyrights owned by Edgar Rice Burroughs that's why it did not made it in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. re releasing every seven-ish years, the special/diamond editions, etc.) I wasn't THAT fond of it but it had its fun moments. It was pretty cool. It's also possible that the use was negotiated. I haven't beaten the game yet, but from what I've seen . Copypasta from another thread long time back but: Disney never "owned" Tarzan. (Done with US version of vanilla KH1) Chainoffire 08:47, 8 September 2016 (UTC), Last edited on 9 September 2016, at 04:48, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvB10qCaIl0, https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Deep_Jungle&oldid=710444. There are two explanations put forward - that Disney 'lost the rights' and that SE 'didn't have permission and were barred from using Tarzan again'. Once it's tested, it should probably go somewhere on the page yes? The license issue is something that was never confirmed that people keep running with. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. But what if the only real differenceis just who's telling the story? tl;dr: trademark law is a pain, Disney no longer has permission to use Tarzan in new titles, therefore neither does the collab between them and Square. No Deep Jungle for you. For Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories on the Game Boy Advance, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Isn't it better that Deep Jungle (the Tarzan level) never made it to this game?". Deep Jungle Was Going To Return in Chain Of Memories Whether it Focused On Tarzan And Jane Tarzan 2 Or The Legend Of Tarzan Tv Series is Unknown But What We Do Know is That We Can See Sora Fighting Anti-Sora in Deep Jungle Tarzan Was Going To Return And Once Again As A Party Member You Can Summon Him By Using His Attack Card Sabor And Clayton Were Also Going To Return As Bosses As Well Tantor And Archimedes Were Also Going To Appear in The World Jane Was Also Going To Return As Well As Well As Terk Kala Kerchak And The Gorillas!!! I believe they couldn't get the rights to use Tarzan after the first game. I hate Wonderland. Deep Jungle's a close second though. Either way, think: I'd rather Monstro never made a return. Should it return? 1912+75 years (pre-1923 rules), is 1987. But for Disney to continue to use them, they have to keep their permission to use the trademark on Tarzan. (The remix, however does have trademark included.). So much trekking back and forth across the same areas just to trigger another event that prompts you to go back down to where you just were. I had none in my stock, and the experiments were done successfully. ERB Inc. have been actively taking back trademarks over their properties (e.g. However, I don't know if a potion is taken from the stock if the player has one. As you can see, it bears a striking resemblance to Mrs Potts and Chip, but it is, however, not them! Since Deep Jungle wasn't in Chain of Memories, does that mean that Sora lost all memory of this world? My . The only reason why it wouldn't return is because Edgar Rice Burroughs, the owners of Tarzan, are not permitting Disney and SE to use it. It feels like more of a chore than anything. What about Tarzan II? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. Nomura-san is on record as saying there are some properties they cannot use because Disney say the rights are not available/not for licensing. Disney have copyright in things they created for their Tarzan movie, and can continue to market, use, and reinterpret that universe. This page was last edited on 9 September 2016, at 04:48. Far too many places that make my head hurt. However, this isn't the kind of information we often get to know, and 'telephone' style explanations may have been oversimplified over time. My personal guess is that they couldn't get the Tarzan rights from Edgar Rice Boroughs or whatever. --TobiasHawk (talk) 14:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC), In a recent playthough of KH1, I noticed that a potion isn't actually required to do the experiments outside the tent. It was set deep in a jungle, although the actual depth is nothing to write home about. They must have worked something out for 1.5, but I have no idea what. Post discussion, fan-art, videos, questions, and more here! the following image is taken in the Tarzan ride in Disneyland: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1204/1008041384_376d2809cf.jpg?v=0. Plus the bad music doesn't help. Sorry for being rude. In order to make the Tarzan movie, Disney had a limited license from that estate in order to use the characters in a story of their own making. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. KHCOM and RE:Codes are literally sora going through the worlds from kh1 but they don't have Deep Jungle. I'm not sure if this question has been asked yet, but why isn't Deep Jungle in Chain of Memories? The credit on KH1 does not refer to trademark, only copyright. I'm glad that Tarzan was just for Kingdom Hearts. TroisNyxtienne, I understand. Tarzan Or Jane Losing Their Memories Could've Been Cool!!! @MezzoDragon : Try appreciate this critically : Donald and Sora had a riff in the Gummi Ship.Had there been no Deep Jungle, no Tarzan peacemaker to remind Sora and Donald about the importance of the heart, there would be no more Trinity. What would you wear for protection when traveling between You've met the Sortas. SeanWheeler 22:11, October 18, 2010 (UTC), I've been thinking about this for a long time. So the character is copyrighted to somewhere other than Disney. For Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories on the Game Boy Advance, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "So, how come Deep Jungle/Tarzan isn't in the game?". KH1's development and release fell within the timeline of this license, so they could include Deep Jungle, but CoM and any other games came about after it expired. TroisNyxtienne 04:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC), Wow, that false trivia was there since April 24th until you deleted it. 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