Pricing is $49, or $55 with a Mini D1 Pro and antenna. Alain also used surface mount devices SMD). I found my answer to my original question that the kit for the smart hand controller is not available anymore and you need acquire the parts and the board yourself. This I probably true for a lot of this. Pick up an old reject if you are an Apple afficianado (like me). Full Kit: PCB plus Parts and Modules Cost and availability: see the Ordering section below for the form. It is based on the STM32F103C8T6, with 128KB flash memory, and 20KB RAM. For me the hardest part was, precisely the mechanic one: all this stuff around pulleys, belt and motor supports need a level of mechanical knowledge that i'm not very found at ". There is a spreadsheet, but I still don't understand what it all means. It is "Highly recommended" in the OnStep wiki, but the slow Mega will make for slow slewing speeds unless paired with TMC 2130 drivers. I tested both systems on an Arduino. Best modification we ever did. On 2020-06-23 4:20 a.m., Mark Major wrote: Thanks Dave, thought it might be something along those lines. RAMPS means "RepRap Arduino Mega Pololu Shield" and is a standard for building a RepRap printer using Arduino Mega compatible components. What is driving me for doing it is the challenge, I have done many things (my dome, my pier, etc,,) so why couldn't I go OnStep. Gone is the Configuration Generator and ConfigXXX.h. Install ESP32 version 1.0.4, If you plan to use the WiFi add-on (ESP8266) install support for those boards from within the menu Tools>Board>Boards Manager. On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:24 AM, Vahid Talaie wrote: Thanks Khalid. If this is your first go you won't miss them. So, that's what I've found out so far. I built an OnStep system a few years ago, purely for interest sake, and specifically chose the STM32 Blue Pill over the "better" versions like the MaxPCB, etc, as it was the only one of the very many OnStep flavors that actually had a good, usable, newbie friendly step by step build guide. The directions are probably quite clear if you know the terminology, but for me it was reading Greek and there weren't any visuals. TheLV8729 driver is another advanced drive, with "only" 128 microsteps, but very fluid and reliable. In my case, this is how I connect to Astroberry on the Raspberry PI 4B, which is running the Indi server. and deal with statement 42;define AXIS1_STEPS_PER_DEGREE, et seq. Pricing is $49, or $55 with a Mini D1 Pro and antenna. I hope that in the next weeks I will get my parts and with the support offered I will be able to acomplish my objective and I will share it with you. Let's find out the prerequisites to install OnStep Controller2 on Windows PC or MAC computer without much delay. Install About this app arrow_forward OnStep is a DIY computerized Goto controller for Telescope mounts. I think this violates the Terms of Service. Here is a video of the completed PCB. [Didn't think you'd ever need that Latin, huh? I, for example have chosen an easier path: Wemos R32 + CNC3. It does appear a great homebrewed option for those wanting GoTo on their mounts. It should create the Arduino_STM32 folder. It is everything you need to install Nema17 stepper motors directly onto your CGE Pro mount. In Config.h you need: #define SERIAL_ONSTEP SERIAL_IP And in Extended.config.h The cost for these is around US $2.50 on eBay and AliExpress. The Group moderators are responsible for maintaining their community and can address these issues. Or, on a PC there's ASCOM and INDI drivers for control. I have a hard time wading through the electronic terms. This kit is the same for the above-mentioned mounts, only main firmware differs. This results in a ratio of 4:1 only for the drive. Do your self a favor and save a copy of the native file as XConfig.h somewhere, just in case you have start from GO. I used to assemble boards way back when boards were actually assembled by people and it was very much a "paint by number" approach. I have not implemented it at the moment. TheTMC5160 is like the TMC2130 but for higher current motors. Are you sure you wish to repost this message? Yes there was a learning curve but the end result is a cgem that performs flawlessly or better than mounts costing twice as much. An Android phone is clearly the right hand controller for OnStep. This project is certainly not something I wish to work on. The Arduino MEGA 2560 runs the OnStep Software Git hub repository for the MEGA 2560 (written by HD a very talented individual ) An ASCOM driver to make the mount compatible with any ASCOM supported software package ( ASCOM page) and here is the driver HD's ASCOM driver page (including some great documentation) OnStep Telescope Mount Goto Controller main@onstep.groups.io A forum to share ideas, experiences, and information for implementing the OnStep telescope mount goto controller. The PCBs can be shipped on their own, or with all the parts needed to build a controller, or all the above, plus the modules needed to build a controller (STM32 microcontroller board, LM2596 power regulator, DS3231 RTC/EEPROM, and WeMos D1 Mini). With the worm gear ratio of 144:1 results in a total ratio of 576:1. Perhaps someone wandering around these forums and feeling like the OP did might find it useful. If one is willing to wade through it all it is a good system that can be adapted to just about any mount at a fairly low cost. I think the next step is to build the smart hand controller. It seems that enabling "on the fly mode switching" is difficult or impossible in some boards which means slews will be slow when paired with slow processors (Mega). However the service only prints the green board, you'd have to purchase all the discrete components and solder them yourself. You can see most of the control possibilities in the diagram below: 2. The developer Howard Dutton says in the messages that he doesn't want OnStep beginners using the beta branch. With no power to the STM32 and the USB cable not connected to the PC yet. I started looking, though, at what had to be done and still realized I hadn't a clue how to get to the finish line after that, so thought it best to write off my losses and move on. You may want to come back and adjust things as you gain experience with your mount, but for now you should be working. Overall I am pleased with how it works. As someone new to Onstep, I purchased a BluePill kit given the relatively 'easy build' and my basic requirements. In the file, which should be opened in a text editor like Notepad, you will find, by my count, 103 "define" statements that together describe you mount's. There aren't any visuals. If you did build a controller with OnStep, please subscribe to the mailing list, . It would be a good addition to the project. I ended up learning a bit more about electronics than I cared to, though. Nearly all features are supported so an SHC+OnStep is a stand-alone telescope controller capable of setup, alignment, and operation (gotos to stars, Messier/Herschel400 objects, the planets, etc.) For many like me the "easily traced and fixed" is more of a challenge. The circled values should be transferred to you Config.h file as follows: #define AXIS1_STEPS_PER_WORMROT 38400, #define AXIS1_DRIVER_MODEL DRV8825 // driver model, #define AXIS1_DRIVER_MICROSTEPS_GOTO OFF // no stepping during slews, #define AXIS2_DRIVER_MODEL DRV8825, #define AXIS2_DRIVER_MICROSTEPS_GOTO OFF. Within the OnStep directory you will find the Config.h. 2x Motor-to worm gear couplers. USB cable connected to Wemos D1 R32 port. For the Arduino development environment (IDE) the *.h suffix means "library." A library is a list of parameters that customize the OnStep software to your mount. Pre integrated and probably nice but the OnStep wiki warns in all caps in red: "THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN AND MAY CHANGE OR HAVE UNFORESEEN PROBLEMS THAT CAUSE IT TO BE ABANDONED". Starting with a box of parts, for me anyway, just didn't pan out. The system fits on all EQ-5 mounts; SW EQ5, Celestron CG-5, Bresser Exos II. But now I'm realizing the controller board may be obsolete/limited availability? It can replace most of the functions provided by the OnStep2 Android App. Finally I selected the OnStep for a realisation. Sky Safari - connects fine via WiFi (IP 192.168..1, port 9999 and "Meade LX 200 Classic" as the scope). Hi Khalid, I too am looking to get the ESP32 version of the SHC, however there are some errors when it comes to ordering the PCB, specifically EasyEDA reports errors with the E and W nets. Roman Hujer converted an EQ5 mount to Onstep using the STM32 kit, and 3D printed parts. First, thanks to all of the OnStep contributors!!! Does that makes sense to you? As someone new to Onstep, I purchased a BluePill kit given the relatively 'easy build' and my basic requirements. You will have to learn the jargin to reach the finish line which will take some time. If you haven'tgone through the. All had a degree of difficulty easier than the Onstep. You can see most of the control possibilities in the diagram below: Also, please visit my StellarJourney.com site for updates, links to OnStep resources, my other astronomy software, or to see some Images taken with the assistance of my OnStep operated mounts. feedback is a bit optimistic. The FYSETC S6 is a fully integrated board for 3D printers based on the STM32 processor. To me the Onstep forum seems like organized chaos. Very good job and a very solid project. The RTC module may come with right-angle header pins pre-installed on the 6-pin end. In order to be repurposed for OnStep you need to remove (desolder) a resistor, put it in top of a Wemos R32 and use the beta version of OnStep (the wiki says "OnStep version 4.x (the "beta") or later is required for this device"). OnStep Overview Basically, it is a Do It Yourself (DIY) conversion of theoretically any mount to become a GOTO that can be controlled from a computer, or optionally via WiFi or Bluetooth, from a smart phone or tablet. Don't expect "put socket B into slot X1" kind of answers. oesn't. The Onstep controller comes pre loaded with the correct software and is bench tested, inc correct Meridian Flip settings. It supports Equatorial Mounts (GEM, Fork, etc.) plug USB cable in PC - Windows USB tone sounds, You're sitting there at the PC with OnStep loaded in the Arduino IDE. The cost for these is around US $2.50 on eBay and AliExpress. 2. I also like to have complete control over the software/firmware so that no "show stopper" issues will ever be a problem for me. 3. OnStep will work with just about any telescope mount you may imagine. There are currently two versions of the SHC: one based on the Teensy 3.2 and the other on the ESP32. Details on the contents and cost of each kit can be found on this page: OnStep Telescope Controller . The so-called Blue Pill is the original microcontroller for the STM32 port of OnStep (now superseded by the F303CC, see above). Those were a little tricky as there are two very small bridges to be soldered to enable a certain mode cant remember which, but you can now get the same board with the soldered bridges already done for you. There is a LOT of people willing to help to gide you over the process. OnCue published OnStep Controller2 for Android operating system mobile devices, but it is possible to download and install OnStep Controller2 for PC or Computer with operating systems such as Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and Mac. If you bought the kit, both a 4-pin header strip and female socket header for this purpose are included. // THAT'S IT FOR USER CONFIGURATION! By now everyone should be using OnStep version 4.2.4. Anyway, after a little work, I've a wonderful EQ5 completely gotoized and remotely managed from KStars/Ekos. I think this message isn't appropriate for our group. OnStep even supports combinations of button presses to change the rate of movement and control other features (this can be enabled by using #define ST4_HAND_CONTROL ON in your Config.h file ): Press and hold [E] + [W] buttons for > 2 seconds. Since I aquired an Losmandy G11 mount without any goto provision I decided to create my own solution. Like: BIQU MKS Gen L V2.0 3D Printer Integrated Motherboard Controller PCB Board A4988/DRV8825/TMC2208/TMC2130 Like Ramps 1.6 MKS Gen V1.4 Mainboard. So my belief is that for now the MKS-Gen L option is the one with the least friction for beginners, at least until the beta V4 version of OnStep becomes mainline (bringing support for Wemos+CNC, and making it more attractive) or until theFYSETC S6 version becomes fully supported by OnStep. Thanks in advance in all the people (many in CL as well as outside the forum) had provided me with information, offered help and the ones had offered me cheers to achieve it. All, I've been bitten by the DIY bug, with the hopes of professional style mechanics at a budget price. They are also likely the noisiest. This is a near complete kit. So I'm hesitant to commit to the BluePill hardware solution if spare/replacement controller boards are not going to be available. This includes: harm to minors, violence or threats, harassment or privacy invasion, impersonation or misrepresentation, fraud or phishing. I am not in any way dissing the Onstep creators, the forum, or the folks who really are amazingly helpful, but, to me anyway, this was a slow painful slog. The Arduino IDE will find them and get confused. I didn't bother with Wifi since the MKS comes with USB where you can hook it into a laptop. You may be more successful if you have an electronics background or at least understand the terms. See the link for detailed photos on how the motors and pulleys were attached. #define SERIAL_C_BAUD_DEFAULT ON // needed for STM32, #define MOUNT_TYPE GEM, #define BUZZER OFF // I unlike the this. What a change! Not a kit, this will be sold as an assembled and tested controller. Yes I'm a mechanical engineer (out of college in 1980), so technology has grown and the electronics is to far away of what I saw in college, but being patient, constant, willing to make it happen and other attitudes plus the GREAT help offered, for sure I will end up with a OnStep system in my CGEM. For me the hardest part was, precisely the mechanic one: all this stuff around pulleys, belt and motor supports need a level of mechanical knowledge that i'm not very found at. You only need to snap together two boards, put the drivers and you are ready to install the firmware and connect it to your motors. For example- Here are some the instructions POST build, that is the board is all done and ready to be configured: If you are using the ESP32 to run OnStep or the ESP32 version of the SHC install support for those boards from within the menu Tools>Board>Boards Manager. I agree with post #1. In addition to RA and Dec, the controller supports ST4, Power and Status LEDs, Smart hand control, Wifi, BT, encoders, PEC index signal, home switches or I2C for BME-280 sensor, 2nd, Not a kit, this will be sold as an assembled and tested controller. In this video I'm going to build an STM32 based Onstep. The new topic will begin with this message. A while back, I completed a port of the open source OnStep Telescope Controller firmware to the STM32 Blue Pill ARM Cortex M3 32-bit MCU. You have chosen one of the hardest one if you don't have electronic knowledge. The main problem with assembling the boards from pieces is that if something doesn't work its nearly impossible for a non-electronics person to unravel why. Remember use the USB/serial adapter NOT the STM32's USB connector. Not sure it would have been a worthwhile investment of time for only one build unless you are really into those kind of things..I should add there will be a fair amount of DIYing to finish the hardware- boxing, attaching the motors.., so if that isn't a strong suit it could add to the difficulty. I ended up, after a long long haul, figuring Onstep out enough to come up with a formula, then I just kept making them. The mechanical part I do not have problems too, I can put them together, get the gears and band installed and adjusted, making brackets is not an issue, but when it comes to get instrucctions/direction/information/etc in your second language is is not simple. The "Mini PCB" "MAX PCB" and "MAX ESP" are actually designs for custom printed circuit boards, which residents of the US and other locales can have manufactured via an "EasyEDA" commercial service. I got good outcomes without belts and pulleys which add a layer of complexity IMHO. Is this safe to ignore or do I need to reroute the nets? OnStep retrofit kit for Losmandy G11, GM8, G9, AZ8, HGM200 and their Celestron equivalent non GoTo m.. 360.00 Add to Cart OnStep Hand Control Starting UpWhen the SHC is powered up an "OnStep" splash screen will appear for a few seconds then i.. 110.00 Add to Cart OnStep Custom Drive My Sky Planetarium offers the most advanced integration with OnStep and makes setup/control easier. I was a bit reluctant to use a Gemini, mainly because of the cost, but also due to the reliability since the servo motors are somewhat prone to failure. This App controls most functions through Bluetooth or Wifi from your Android cell phone. Based on Nema 17 stepper motor positioning system, this kit includes all necesary to fully control your mount, hand controller is optional but not needed, package content: 2x Nema17 0,9 Step Angle Stepper Motors (5,4VDC, 0,9A, 36Ncm nominal Specs), installed on brackets. Looking around the 'net I saw other goto systems that seemed capable, but either they had needlessly complex hardware or were commercial systems that cost about twice what they should. The SHC is almost entirely based on Charles Lemaire 's . Its hard to find a "formula". The whole project was less than$150. Based on Nema 17 stepper motor positioning system, this kit includes all necesary to fully control your mount, hand controller is optional, package content: 2x Nema17 0,9 Step Angle Stepper Motors (5,4VDC, 0,9A, 36Ncm nominal Specs), installed on brackets. After all that work making one was just too, well, painful, so all my setups, present and future, now have them. But now I'm realizing the controller board may be obsolete/limited availability? These need to be straightened out so that the module can be plugged in flat with the CR2032 battery holder facing up (battery not supplied as it would cause shipping problems). Imagen when you are told to download from the pc to the board and understand the numbers needed for the arrengement I end up, THAT IS MY ISSUE!, The GREAT TOOL is the people I have contacted willing to help (as I said) and for sure I will be learning a lot and assure I will come to the end of the line (I will have to face a lot of bumps, hiccops, stalls, burns, etc, it will be the only way it will happen!). I would not recommend a blue pill build unless you have an electronics background, likewise any build you would have to assemble from a bare board. Paired with the TMC 2130 motor drivers. My experience trying to build an Onstep - posted in Astronomy Software & Computers: This is just a single input into the pile of users who have shown interest and even are considering building an Onstep. Still have a parts bin, a few non working systems ( where working is defined as automated via ASCOM). Group Information. 3. Two years ago, I started assembling Components of sky cameras, cloud sensors, rotators, and focusers. BTW, as an example of the generosity shown on the Onstep forum, I even had a person offer to bail me out and build my kit for free. Open the OnStep-beta folder, copy all the files and folders and paste in the old OnStep folder. Or, on a PC there's ASCOM and INDI drivers for control. Download the OnStep package and install in your Arduino directory. It's a high price to pay for the lack of a "step by step" guide. TheA4988 is a legacy, old 16 microsteps driver, that was generally superceded by the DRV8825 which still only does 32 microsteps. 1. 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